Michelle Johnson
Are you ready to level up? I'm Michelle Johnson, a business coach, business owner, corporate manager, wife, Mum, and a juggler of all the things. I would love to help you juggle all the things that are important to you. How do you stay calm in control and achieve your goals? Join me in the mindset corner. Hey, welcome back. It's so nice to see you again in the mindset corner. We've got a special episode today. It's our first guest Podcast. I'm really excited to introduce you today to a great friend of mine and an amazing coach Chrissy Stubbs. Let me tell you a little bit about Chrissy. After a 10 year career in a corporate travel company, Chrissy was starting to burn out and wishing to start a family, she left the corporate world to train as a reflexologist. To add to her Reiki and her interest in holistic health. She was always driven by a desire to help people and she is now settled in Geelong with her two boys, one of whom has a life limiting condition DMD which is Duchenne muscular dystrophy, which was the catalyst for her understanding how our own unconscious minds work, particularly in relation to anxiety and dealing with trauma. being looked down for months was the thing that provided the opportunity to further her Neuro Linguistic Programming studies, where she met her current business partner and launched the collective Coaching Academy. Today, she offers personal coaching and continues to build training programs and support her students through CCA. She's passionate about helping her students to grow their own skills, and have a ripple effect of helping others. In our wide ranging conversation, Chrissy talks to us about her business history, how she pivoted due to outside factors, what she loves about being an online Coach and Trainer, how she's overcome challenges as her business has changed. And she shares some mindset tips and NLP concepts that can help all of us know ourselves better. I hope you enjoy our chat. Here is my chat with Chrissy Stubbs. Hey, Chrissy Welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have you on the mindset corner. As one of the people who was part of the inspiration for this podcast, I'm so excited. And it's so fitting that you are our first guest.
Chrissie Stobbs
Thank you so much. I'm so honored to be here. And just so proud of you and everything that you've achieved already and where you're taking this. It's amazing.
Michelle Johnson
Thank you so much. I thought we could start today. I've given everyone a little bit of your background already in the introduction, but how about in your own words, if you can tell us a little bit about your business journey and how you came to be doing what you're doing now?
Chrissie Stobbs
Sure. Well, in my previous life, I feel like it was so long ago, I had the most amazing career working with our corporate travel company. And I learned so much about people and working in teams and trying to get the best out of people and customer service. And I absolutely loved it. But when I started a family I was like really want something that I can do from home and be a bit more flexible. And I'd always been interested in sort of more of a holistic type. Now Healing in that kind of space, I learned some Reiki and got my diploma in reflexology. And that was kind of the goal was was to work around the kids and have sort of a clinic and, and be able to help people feel great at the same time be really present mom. So that was all sort of achieved. While I had the kids was small. I didn't I dabbled, I would say I dabbled, and always had that sort of concept in my mind that when the kids are at school and then I settled into a really good routine that I could get back into, you know, having a career and having something that really lights me up and gives me purpose. So I had the most amazing clinic offering a sort of reflexology, and had gone through a personal journey of my own for my own personal development or in my mindset and unconscious mind and letting go at stuff and found myself talking to clients you know, they're coming in with physical ailments and, and not feeling great in their body. And I was realizing really quickly there is a lot to do here the connection between sort of the mind body and you know, what they're holding on to and what they're dealing with emotionally and how that showing up in their body. And so I started integrating, you know, the coaching and sort of being able to offer more of a holistic approach to everything going on in their lives. And then, yeah, I'm sure you probably asked me about it, but it was more to do with sort of COVID coming along the in person, you know, interaction. Here in Victoria, we had really long lockdowns. So being able to see people one on one sort of led me into a new space where I was able to do some study and a wonderful relationship which is ended up with coaching academy. We're now able to continue working from home around the kids been working now as a trainer as well, as a coach. It's been an evolution, but I'm looking for the silver linings and all the things that have happened in the past couple of years and, and being grateful for the space. And you were part of that journey. So it makes it very fitting that we are having this conversation.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah, I'm really excited to have you on in to delve into a bit more into your story. So we can share the learnings with our listeners today. So you said you changed from a clinic setting into more of the coaching side due to COVID Was that the only reason or where was that pressure coming from?
Chrissie Stobbs
Sorry, I loved being able to do the coaching person to person, though there's, there's nothing more intimate and sort of, you can be vulnerable, and you can be there to support someone when they're sitting right in front of you. So that was definitely happening in the clinic space. And even in my home office here where I love having people come in, it gives them a place to feel really safe and you know, separate from the rest of their day to day and I, I really kind of missed that I won't, I won't lie. But I guess the push or the shove that came from everyone being at home has allowed that transition into an online space, I'm sure lots of people listening can relate. You may have been working from home, or you know, had to adjust your you know, how you work to be more interacting with your, with your teams and with your clients and customers in this online space. So it wasn't my preferred way to work. Previously, there was even some hesitation about whether I could have that really nice, you know, relationship with someone across a computer screen. But I don't think I'm the only one that's learned that you you can there's still an element of the social interaction, which is really important for all of us. And having I mean zoom and having, you know, teams and having these easy technologies that's allowing people to communicate. If I look at becoming a coach, and as a trainer, yes, I would love to be doing it in person. But at the same time, there's so many elements of working online, no commute. And it's making it accessible for anybody doesn't matter where you are in the world. You know, and it doesn't matter what time of the day. And so there's there's lots to be said for both of it. But definitely, if I'm focusing on being present as an online Coach and Trainer, there was definitely the kick up the backside from you know, the COVID lockdowns and such, but I think it's opened up a new confidence in lots of people being online and sharing.
Michelle Johnson
Well, for sure, I don't think I would have done the NLP training with your academy if you hadn't had that online option. Because, you know, being mums, we are pretty busy and have a lot of things going on. And I don't know that I could have made seven days in a row or something available to be in person somewhere or travel to be somewhere. So I really appreciated that you were offering that model. And so thank you COVID, for allowing us to do so.
Chrissie Stobbs
Yes, I understand some there's so much, you know, difficulty that for COVID. The past two years is is provided many challenges. But I definitely think that we're not the only success story to come as a result. So I think has had a bit of a shift and a lot of people in the way that they live in their lifestyle and the way that they they work and learn. Hopefully, it is a new era.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah, I think it was the first lockdown in my area that really made me get out of my comfort zone and get online and share a little bit of my understanding about mindset because I could see so many people were struggling in that situation. And I knew that there was a different way of looking at things and that you can really change your the whole way you're reacting to things on purpose. And yeah, being able to do that online may be able to contact lots of people that I wouldn't have fit in same day to day. So very true. So when you were sort of changing into a new profession, and I guess just as a different version of helping people, and what were you worried about and what helped you to get past that feeling?
Chrissie Stobbs
I think definitely that initial, especially is one of the modalities I work with is hypnotherapy. And there was a definite hesitancy about this relationship building. Like I say, amazing when you're one on one in person, but I think one of the things holding me back originally was just you know, how do I create the space? And how do I connect with people when we're still working, you know, online and on computers? I think I think there's such a need at the moment. So when the demand is there if there was ever a time when we need more people being able to support each other, you know, on a sort of emotional well being, you know, mindset level, it's really now so you got to put aside all your own sort of hesitations and worries and just sort of really go for it because there's there is a demand there is a need in the field. Helping people. And then you start getting the feedback, but it's working, which I know, you know, right, as soon as you start to get those messages, like oh my gosh, this is better, or this is different, or I feel so good. That's what lights you up. And that just clears the past, just push aside, that, you know, when they call it when you face those sort of self doubts and the imposter syndrome, you know, it's the catchphrase these days, you just, you just got to push through and surround yourself with the right people that lift you up and encourage you on. So I've had that
Michelle Johnson
100% I've definitely always performed my best one, I've got a coach or someone I really trust, who's kind of helping me push myself in the right direction. So yeah, for sure. What were some of the early challenges in the transition period? And I don't know if you want to also talk to moving into starting the academy as well. And how did you handle that process?
Chrissie Stobbs
There was so much to learn. So, just to give that some context, when, when one of our lockdowns was happening in Victoria, it opened the opportunity because my husband was working from home, that I was able to invest literally hundreds of hours into studying and training, going through diploma level and getting my trainers trainer certificate as a master trainer with the company I work with. And a chance meeting with my now business partner, Alex, we were like, okay, we can do one on one work, and we can help this person and that person. And that's great. But how do we make a bigger ripple effects? Like how do we lift other people up to give them the skills so we can help you know, that that domino effect, and we quickly created the concept or what is now the company of the collective Coaching Academy. And it was a lot to learn there was there's a lot of back end stuff that I think is what possibly stops a lot of people really moving into it, you know, with ease, and they sort of that's where although I don't know how to do the accounting, or I don't know how to build a website. And, you know, a lot of people think that there needs to be a lot of money in the backend to invest and get going. But really, if you just break it down into smaller steps and ask for help and outsource, you know where you can, but learning, you know, I mean, to sit here and say that I built our website and the course platform, and I will learn how to do that. It's been you know, you just got to look at the challenges and figure out how to get around them. And like I said, just Yeah, put your hand up, I think when you don't know what you're doing, because everything is a learning process.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah. And you definitely kind of build that belief as you go, every step you take, you're like, Okay, I could do that piece. So I could probably do the next face, and you get more and more confidence in that action taking as you go. So yeah, I've definitely found that studying this business as well.
Chrissie Stobbs
And even like you say, I have a business coach, or coach, I think you'll find that most coaches have a coach. So having someone to gently nudge you along and say, Well, this is your accountability, have you done this? This is what you said you're going to do. And just just keeping going because you can get in your own way, right? Like how many times do people say I'm going to get these great ideas, but they never come to fruition, you really have to like, stay accountable to yourself. And if you're having trouble during that, like enlisting the help with a coach or someone to keep you on track or at a networking group of some sort. I think that's really key.
Michelle Johnson
I'm glad someone helped to push you so you can release your gifts on the world. When you're talking about that ripple effect. It really gives me goosebumps because I really believe in that vision too, that people can definitely have a much better experience with a little bit more information and a bit of training and how to understand that the way their own mind works. So absolutely, yeah, super powerful. I wanted to ask, obviously, you said you didn't know Alex before, how did you find going into business with somebody who you just met and as you said, sort of clicked with.
Chrissie Stobbs
It's such a cool story. And I have so much appreciation for the connection that we made, there was a few of us actually the group that we were just randomly put into. I've literally a random zoom, breakout room. And there was the six of us, I think, and it was just the most amazing group, the synergy and the ideas that we had. You know, and that's where it sort of we caught ourselves to the collective in the training, which is which we've carried on, because what we love is we recognize that everyone has different strengths. And so, you know, even even now as we build the company and having someone like yourself, where like your strengths lie in a slightly different area, you know, as I bring all these people together, so Alex and I just very lucky, both of us have done a lot of work on mindset and communication. So the areas where potentially prior to doing this work, could cause some friction or some misunderstanding. We're both able to deal with it because we're very, very different. But I also I think that's what makes us work. She's very big picture, you know, we talk about this and NLP, she's very sort of visionary big picture. And if we were both like that nothing would get done. Like, the details, right? Like it'd be great to have all these ideas, but I'm very much like, what's the fine print? What's the how to walk away? And let me know exactly all the details. So we complement each other so well. And you're right, it was months after we first we did many trainings together in the online space, before we actually met in person. And even when we did, we felt so like, we were like, old old friends really annoying. So I think we're very, very blessed in that sense that it's not always gonna work when you team up with somebody. But as you learn more about communication skills, and understand how different people work and respond and react, you know, that's part of the journey of having a great team, I think. So yeah, it's been fun, though.
Michelle Johnson
It's so nice when you find someone that you just feel like speaks your language, and you totally understand each other pretty early on. So. But also, I agree with you, like when you really understand yourself better, it's much easier to manage relationships with other people, because you can see what's going on for yourself and for them, and sort of change your behavior or call out for them what might be happening for them as well.
Chrissie Stobbs
100% agree. Yeah,
Michelle Johnson
super powerful. So you mentioned that you're a mom, as I think a lot of our listeners are and I am. And I would love to ask you how you go, obviously, you're at home at the moment working from home a lot of the time, how are you going, managing the work life and the juggle with family?
Chrissie Stobbs
I am so grateful. I have the two points that I have are a little bit older now. So I take my hat's off to anyone that's not, you know, sort of gone through this period or created a business at home. Because juggling around the needs of kids can be you know, you can constant interruptions and you have to stay really focused and yet I'm really good at scheduling. So during the holidays, there's a lot more flexibility, you know, I allow for a lot more flexibility than just you know, when they're at school, I can sit and focus which is really great. I miss in some senses being in an office and having you know, those work relationships and the talk and the the social, you know, aspect of being in an office, but I wouldn't change it for the world to be able to create, you know, a business and an income on my own schedule. You know, one of my kids had a tremendous amount of inner appointments. And we have a My other son has a lot of sports. And it's a privilege that I don't take for granted that not a lot of mums necessarily, you know, have in the in the way that you can be available and make your own scheduling. So, I am so so grateful for that. And part of what lights me up, is being able to say to you know, maybe a mum who has been a mum, and now the kids are all at school. And she's like, well, now what do I do? You know, or maybe someone who was so sick of their corporate, you know, the commute and the bus and the thing? And now what do I do? How do I find a balance? Is there a way there's definitely a space, someone who has skills and knowledge and just desire to help other people really move into this sort of this online, you know, sort of coaching and being a mentor, creating your own, you know, taking the skills and knowledge that you've got and creating your own courses. There's such a space for that. And it's it's not, it's not easy, because then everyone would be doing it, but it's possible, right? And I really want to open people's eyes to your believing in themselves and believing that they have something to offer. And then giving them the steps of how they go through that.
Michelle Johnson
Do you have any examples or stories that you can share about how the your NLP kind of perspective on things has changed things at home for
Chrissie Stobbs
you? Oh, my gosh, how long have we got, I mean, my entire reason for learning NLP and timeline therapy, you know, sort of putting the hypnotherapy to the side because even when I sat in the classroom, I was like, a live donor if I need to show up that but I wasn't interested in. But the entire purpose was because I was I was stuck in a place where I was feeling really, I was really down and I was so focused on the things that were going wrong. And I was holding on to all this emotion that I'd been carrying from, you know, a previous sort of traumatic event. And I felt stuck. I just like how do I how do I show up? I'm not the mom, I'm not the role model that I want to be I'm just I feel like I'm stuck in this place. So a friend gave me a nudge and said, you know, and I knew about NLP i It wasn't completely new to me. And but just it was just that little you know, things happen. Sometimes those funny timing kind of things and just that nudge came at the right time. And when I started learning it it was all about, okay, how does the language and the way that I'm talking to myself inside my head affect the people around me? How do the words that I use in my communicating because I have two children who are very different, and that both respond really differently to different language and the way that they respond and the way that they communicate with me and I had any been doing everything my way. And on reflection, and I think about being a manager in the corporate travel office, I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I wish I knew, then what I knew now, I would be such a better team leader, you know, and the way that people have different ways of receiving and processing information. And when you apply that to your family, not just like my kids, but you know, my husband, my parents, you know, and, and there's lots of sort of concepts and NLP that helps you sort of take stock of what you've been through and how people have treated you and things that have happened in the past and how you kind of processed your ma like, you can sort of, there's an element of like, understanding that it brings. So I've always, I've always been a really sort of positive person. But, you know, I went through a bit of a dip, and we had sort of the diagnosis for my son, and that was part of the genius, how do I lift myself back up? But everyone always says to me things like, Oh, you're always so positive. And you're always like, Well, if there comes a point where it's like, if you if that's what you focus on, that's what you're gonna, you know, encourage and hopefully, as a role model, I now see my kids doing the same, which was the whole purpose, you know, of learning. So, communication, understanding language. Yeah, I mean, we could talk, we could spend a day
Michelle Johnson
feeding those things back to you. And you're like, hey, I shouldn't have told you that. Now. You can do that back to me.
Chrissie Stobbs
Yeah. It has changed so so so much. Yeah.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah, sometimes when I get a bit angry, and then I would like Charlotte will say, like, Mom, are you telling your brain the right things here? Or you know, Mom, you can be in control of your reaction, and you don't need to be angry. I'm like, Why did I tell you this?
Chrissie Stobbs
If I'm getting upset over something, my husband's like, can't you like NLP yourself out of this? I'm like, I will just, you know, give me a minute. Let me be in it for a second, and then I'll get out of
Michelle Johnson
it. But yeah, I remember a story that you told in our training, if you don't mind sharing it, it was about how you reassured yourself by saying that your son was probably going to be a lawyer. Do you mind sharing that story?
Chrissie Stobbs
Okay, so I guess that's the reframing section, where we're, we're part of the concept is, if you're experiencing something, or going through a situation is like, how can you? How can you change the way that you think about it? Right? And put it in a different context? Or, you know, put it in a different time? Or there's different ways of shifting what's going on? And absolutely, I mean, this, this happens almost on a daily basis, where you might say, I'll give you an example, the boys coming out of the sort of media or the family room, you know, and like, can you bring your plates with you? Right? And so my son will literally bring a plate, he will leave his cup, his mag, or his bowlers, cutlery or whatever else, and I'm like, put my head and I'm like, Guys, I asked you to, you know, clean up with stuff because No, you asked for the plates. And I'm like, he's so technical. Like, every, you know, he's a sort of Kibber he says, what's the time and you're like, it's 230. And then he looks he's like, No, it's not. It's 224. And I'm like, Oh, my word. So the frustration like, those are kind of funny examples. But like, it can get really frustrating. And it can get quite, you know, I don't want him to go out in the world and argue over every single little point, but part of my brain instead of getting angry and upset about it is like, okay, you know, what, you are going to make a brilliant lawyer Monday. Alright, so you're taking the same situation and applying it to a different contexts. And it just, it takes the edge off. And it's just like, it helps you cope and get through things that, you know, pick you pick you things you don't need to get, instead of upset about everything. So whereas before I would then be like, Oh, why are you doing this? And why? You know, in my head, I've been getting really frustrated. And now I just sort of laugh it off. And it's it is a bit of a running joke with all of us. It's like, man, he's pregnant. You know, so, we do that a lot. I don't want I'm hanging out the washing, and it's like the fifth load of washing and I'm just like, oh my word. You know, it's just that they're flipping it's like, you've been finding the great of gratitude. You know, how amazing is it that we've got all these clothes to wash the sheets in the bedroom? You know, just use flip it and reframe it and honestly it just it just once you do it and you start to learn how to do it. You know on purpose you just notice that you start to rewire your brain and just start to happen naturally. And
Michelle Johnson
yeah, look I can really frustrate people when I do that, because it's actually really automatic for me that someone if someone complains about something, or if I find myself complaining about something I like straightaway offer up. Oh, but isn't it great that this or I'll do that in my own head. But I think for other people that like, one of my store managers, I remember was like, Why are you so positive all the time, I'm just trying to have a whinge about it. Just let me have my winch.
Chrissie Stobbs
Right, yeah, find the people that want to have a winch, we'll just keep on
Michelle Johnson
enjoying. So yeah, I remember your story about your son really stuck with me, because my son has quite a stubborn streak is three and a half. And he really knows how he wants things. And you know, the sheets need to be exactly like this. And he needs to have his milk in his heroes cup. And if it's not in the heroes cup, it's not good enough. And it's a huge meltdown. And I definitely would get frustrated with that, but I felt about you and I thought about your story. And I thought, okay, how can I change this in my mind, and I decided to say, well, being very determined later in life is going to be really helpful for him. So I don't necessarily want to squash that. In Him. It's a very, it's like a completely legitimate skill and something very important in some situations. So I should be more grateful that he has that and he will be able to, like stand up for himself and things like that in the future.
Chrissie Stobbs
And that just shifts your energy, right. So when you in that moment, you everything happens. And we respond, and we we don't realize it until you set to do this work that you are in control of your response. So previously, you know, you might have just felt that little moment of frustration, or, you know, why, why is this always like this kind of thing. But if you can start to consciously move yourself out of that space and choose how you respond, it's just so much better, better, feel better for your health, your relationships, your you know, everything? Yeah, I believe, I think I think it has a knock on effect around, you know, choosing choosing when, especially as a parent, especially as a parent with three year old. Um, you know, you really have to, you have to think about them as sponges, and they are listening and watching and taking everything in, and how you respond. And you know, and that's, that's where I was coming from, you know, I was like, I am not showing up as the person that I want my kids to be watching right now. Because I was, you know, hurt and angry and sad, and, you know, all these big emotions that I didn't know how to process I was like, I need to take a handle on this in order for them to watch and know that it's, things are going to be okay. Or, yeah, I love that. And anything that we can do that sort of gets you into you become aware of how you're responding to situations and learning to move yourself out of that frustration. And
Michelle Johnson
it can definitely be a bit of like a double edged sword, like, once you realize then you have to take responsibility, and you do have to choose to just lose it and and not worry about it you really everything is there for analysis for you to reflect on and think about how did I handle that, and would I do it differently next time and what caused me to react in that way. But I am such a nerd in that place. And I just love that that side of it. And I love helping other people reflected that way as well.
Chrissie Stobbs
Like, I love that you said that because it's one of the first things we teach, right, you are responsible to take responsibility for everything, everything you have everything you don't have, you know, and everything that we choose to do, as we move through this life, you have to start with being responsible.
Michelle Johnson
I had a manager once, I always used to tell her, I'm really sorry, but everything is your fault. And it wasn't, she understood what I was saying it was just a reference to the previous conversation that we'd had. But in the end, as a manager, it's kind of the same in the way that you manage your life. But really everything is your responsibility. And everything comes back to you even if it wasn't directly something you did in a way it was something you created or something you had a part in, or that you had a reaction to. And even that part you can take responsibility for. So yeah, it's definitely definitely changed the way that I operate from a manager point of view. And also Yeah, in that family space. Thank you so much for sharing some of those personal stories. I think it really adds and helps helps the listeners See, like real situations where you can apply these things. Oh, yeah. Oh, this many. Is there a particular mindset hack that you would like to share from your experience or something that comes up a lot for your clients?
Chrissie Stobbs
I think one of the one of the key concepts that both we teach in our NLP trainings and also I weighs in still and go into a bit more depth with every client, because a lot of I see a lot of, you know, women especially and young girls in their 20s that are dealing with anger And then that sort of thing. But I think what's important for anyone that's in a relationship or, you know, a lot of things that come up is how they're interacting with other people in their life, be it their parents or their partner, or they've broken up with someone or something like that, is probably there's probably two parts to this, everyone's doing the best with the resources that they have. Right, whatever presuppositions. And once you start to take that on board, you know, I was, I was asked to give an analogy the other day about sort of my attitude to life. And I always think there's a, there's a quote, I should probably remember who it's by, but it's like, you know, we're all traveling through a storm. And we're not all in the same boat. And when I read that, and I sort of apply that to how I work with people is that there's, you know, life is a storm, some days, a calm, some days more treacherous. And we're not all on the same boat, there are some people that have these amazing super yachts with crew serving them cocktails. And then there's other people who have lost an oar, or there's other, you know, other boats with just one person. And they're quite content with that. And that's okay. And there's other people who think, you know, you might be like, Hi, and then they're not there, or they're ignoring you down below, and they're like, bailing out the water, they got leaks, or they're too scared to put their hand up and ask for help, right? So think about us all in these in this sort of vessels of life, if you want to get really deep into it. And you know, some days are worse. But if you start, like tying your boats together, right, sharing the resources, because one person's resources are serving them in one way, and I had these resources now. And I'm like, you know, Michelle, I've got these great resources, let me throw you I would hire boats together. And let's weather the storm together. And I, I really want to open people's eyes to the concept as well that you have to respect somebody else's world, by the boat that they're in, you have to respect why they're there as a result of their journey, everything that someone goes through in their life brings them to a certain point. And, you know, we we talk about this in quite depth about, you know, how two people can react to the same situation differently because of the way that they process the information based on all their life experiences and all their own belief systems. And what I say bringing this back to the question is what I always, always try and do myself and I always try and instill in my, my coaching clients, and we teach it in depth is understand that everyone has a model of the world and what that person is going through, even if you're in the same situation, you're experiencing the same thing. But she's, this has locked down as an example, lockdown for one person has a very different experience to somebody else, right, the boats different, their experiences are different. There's other things going on. And we often get caught up, especially in times of distress, when we're feeling upset, we're feeling emotional, it becomes all about how we are responding. But if you're having trouble communicating or in a relationship or something with somebody else, you need to really understand their point of view. And you need to, you know, we are walking walking in someone else's shoes as much as walking in their shoes, it's understanding why they hold the belief systems that they do. And once you can kind of separate yourself from that and look at it as a mindset process that somebody else is going through, it kind of gives a better understanding. So the concept for me is that I always want to be able to understand that somebody else can have a different point of view. And that's totally okay. Right. And not not everyone has have the same point of view as me, but in their model of the world. That's what they believe. And this is what they're doing. Because these are the resources that they have. And, and just really, if I can share that, you know, with the listeners, and anyone sort of tuning into this is that's kind of for me, part of what started my NLP journey was understanding what's going on inside my head. And then having the understanding of how that relates to you know, another person and how I'm communicating with them. So and I've seen, I've seen, it sounds really simple. If you've studied NLP or done any mindset work, you know, what I'm saying is, you probably like yeah, and, but there's a lot of people that you've explained this concept to and when you dig into that a little bit more, and you can see there is a scar, like, I'd never thought about it like that. The way that one of my girls, you know, the way that her ex boyfriend was responding to a situation was so vastly different from her own and she couldn't understand you know why he was reacting in this way. When you break people's behavior and communication what sort of thing can understand it?
Chrissie Stobbs
Gosh, it can be like watching the weight of the welcome of someone shoulder it's really that's really cool. So that's always my foundation of where I start, and then we build out from there.
Michelle Johnson
I love that. I definitely I came to NLP thinking that it would help me help out The people. And it was a real surprise for me that it really was a lot about me. And then thinking about how it's the same for other people. And yeah, that's been such a win, because I feel like I've really grown as a person as a result of doing that course, and helping other people. And that wasn't what I was expecting from I thought I was just going to learn how to coach someone. And, yeah, it's been like a bit of a personal journey as well. So that was so cool. Thank you
Chrissie Stobbs
for sharing that. Because I did it the opposite. I, when I'm purely for myself, like, how do I help myself? So that's really cool. That's really interesting that you can come at it from different angles, you know, doing it as a mom doing it as a manager and corporate doing it as a therapist, or someone who wants to move into coaching. I do think, yeah, there's there's benefits and never know what the journey, I can't believe I'm here sharing this with you, you know, this is not this is not the journey that I started with when I first started learning. So it's just being open to the possibilities as well, I think is really cool.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah, I think a year ago, I hadn't done a NLP course yet. And I probably thought anything about mindset was a bit woowoo. And that I was way too serious and logical for that kind of approach to things. And it's been really nice to come in and really understand the brain science and how, you know, you can come up, come up the concepts from a few different places, you can think of it as a higher purpose, and that some things are in relation to the universe and what the universe wants for you. But you can equally Think about how your brain is reacting to whether you agree with that or not. So, yeah, absolutely.
Chrissie Stobbs
And I think you're a credit to the process. And that because you do have a logical approach that being able to share this in a way that people who think the same way as you is just even, even better, because you have someone do the same training, who is we were and they want to go out, and that's their therapy. And that's how they do that. But it caters for for everybody.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah, I got some advice from a friend. Before doing it, who had also done the course before, she knows me quite well. And she just said, like, some of it will feel woowoo. But just listen, and just let like let it just wash over you and take what makes sense to you. And that was really good advice, because I didn't let the blocks come up to say, oh, no, this isn't for me, or, you know, I just tried to listen and be open. And you said the same thing about the hypnotherapy and told me at the time, like, I know, I felt that too. I thought it was going to be a bit weird. But you know, once once you understand what happens in your brain in those situations, it's really interesting how powerful that can be. Yes,
Chrissie Stobbs
it's so true. Trust the process. We always say just trust the process. Sometimes it's like, oh, man, this is not making sense. But like, just trust the process. It's like a layering of information that comes in. Sometimes you'll go back and listen or watch or revisit some of the content. And it'll be like, Oh, okay, some of the content I didn't get straightaway, no way. It's totally normal, but just trust the process and keep learning. But yeah, it's hilarious to me that when I was sitting in the room, and I was like, on hypnotherapy day, you know, whatever. I wonder if I need to be here. And now I absolutely love it. Because you're right, we have all these preconceived ideas about what things are. And just trust the process and go through and take what works, you know, you don't have to take everything on board, but keep learning and keep growing and, and yeah, keep putting yourself in situations where you're being asked to, you know, step outside their comfort zone, like do something new. It's, it's, it's the best thing you can do. I think,
Michelle Johnson
you know, I agree with you. So if someone is interested in pursuing an NLP course, or getting in contact with you, what's the best way that they can do that?
Chrissie Stobbs
We are the collective Coaching Academy, and the website is cca nlp.com and all the information about our courses about coaching one on one, about our amazing graduate coaches such as yourself, who we just want to support and just celebrate the whole wide world, the website is the best place to start.
Michelle Johnson
Amazing. I'll put that in the show notes for anyone who's interested they can follow along. And I'll also put a couple of other places you can find Chrissie if you'd like to find out more. But thank you so much for coming on. I of course love nerding out about NLP with you. And thanks for sharing from the heart so generously. I appreciate it
Chrissie Stobbs
on Friday. Thank you.
Michelle Johnson
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