Michelle Johnson
Are you ready to level up? I'm Michelle Johnson, a business coach, business owner, corporate manager, why? Mum and a juggler of all the things I would love to help you juggle all the things that are important to you. How do you stay calm in control and achieve your goals? Join me in the mindset corner.
Hello, hello. So excited to have you here again, on this episode of the mindset Corner. Today's episode we have some special guests, Kate and Matilda from the expansive branding agency.
Our chat today is pretty wide ranging all things mindset and branding. Let me tell you a little bit about them. After meeting at an NLP event in 2021, Kate and Matilda co founded expansive branding agency, with extensive experience and a deep passion for personal style, aesthetics and transforming lives. They created the agency where they could integrate mindset components to work with entrepreneurial women, so they could be seen in their highest versions within their online presence. This presence in turn leads to faster growth and attraction of ideal leads into their business. Together, they coach entrepreneurs to show up as the powerful women they are truly embodying their confidence through every layer and create a legacy within their chosen communities. I know you're going to enjoy this chat. Let's get into the episode.
Welcome back to the mindset corner. I'm really excited to bring you this episode with Kate and Matilda from the expansive branding agency. Thank you so much for joining me. You are so welcome.
I can definitely see we've had a bit of a chat before the episode. And we have some very similar interests. And I think there'll be lots of nerding out about mindset in this session. So stay tuned for some good tips for you to implement straightaway. Let's let's get into it. Why? Why don't we start with a bit about your background and how you got to running the business you're running now? Mm hmm. Sure. Do you want to go first coat? Yeah, sure. Yeah. My name is Kate learner, as Michelle introduced and I My background is in interior design. And that led to me starting a well, I became a mother and then I looked around and realized there was no funky change tables. And so I designed my own and started a return nursery furniture business out of that became quite successful in that became really into mindset and studied NLP last year, and really delve deep into the mind. And so last year, I sold the nursery furniture business became a mindset coach, and met Matilda at NLP. And yeah, with a passion of visuals and really putting the meaning behind the visual. So the, the, the plan behind the change tables was for them to become a visual representation of that family's love. And so when I unpacked that, I realized that I really love putting meaning behind the visuals. And so now, as you know, visual strategist,
Kate Ladner
we really get to help entrepreneurs, especially women step into that confidence and really put meaning behind who they are within their brand.
Matilda Morgan
Absolutely.
I can go from there. So and I'm Matilda, and I just have a third baby. So I'm a proud mom of a third baby.
And so yeah, it's a very similar background. So I actually came through the fashion route. So I've got had training in as a garment patent maker,
as a retail store owner.
And so I can't think the same way as like going How can I connect meaning to the people wearing these clothing? Like, you know, because we, you know, clothing and textiles are just so important to the fabric of our societal story. So how can we reconnect to those aspects and also, you know, fully be able to express ourselves so I found through my journey, like, you know, designing clothing and having, you know, a label and the store that you know, what was missing? Was that people just kind of like going how do I actually what can I buy? What's going to suit me, what's the expression of me?
And so I dove into becoming a you know, more of like that personal branding stylist, you know, because I really loved entrepreneurs and helping them take their mission to the world as well. And then of course, net Kate and NLP is all starting to that
work as well. And it just came together so beautifully, like, you know, just this like almost like a marriage of like these complementing visual, you know, aspects to, you know, work with women in particular about how they can
really, like embody their full self, you know, visually and draw the inner and like confidently stand in the beautiful power that they are.
Michelle Johnson
Amazing. It's so cool how mindset just underpins all these different areas of our life. And when you want to help someone, I think what I've experienced in this space now is so many people have a specialist area, maybe they're a personal trainer, or a business coach or interior designer, and then you see how actually helping someone with their mindset can then help you deliver even better results for your clients in the end, under percent. It's such an undercurrent of everything. And once you switch that, and because it's so integrated to right like it, can you can you can take it into all these different avenues, which is, you know, it's not just one one box. Yeah, it's like how you do one thing is how you do everything, right. So you simply it's like how you show up in your visuals or how your offices or whatever is visually articulated, can show really interesting representations about what's going on in the inner world as well. I'm certainly very paranoid about my visual branding.
Our listeners, too, and it's tweaking something for you, if you're listening in about what you're looking like online as well and ready to get some tips from the girls today.
How do you find working together? Obviously, it's a fairly new relationship. How have you gone building the business with somebody new?
Matilda Morgan
So awesome question. And, yeah, so we've been officially like, it's been a fish dating.
I think since October. So October, really last year. So whatever amount of months that is, and
Kate Ladner
it's been really lovely, like,
I think because we've had that beautiful underpinning of, you know, having experience with NLP, we've been in business for a while for ourselves that we're able to enter in a way that's was really intentional and authentic to each of us, and have been able to grow in a way that has been along that line as well. So
So yeah, we felt like we dove into a few different things that we just found, like, ah, like, even without human design, it's been really like seamless, very complimentary, yeah, complimentary. And then, you know, also being that willingness to have those hard and easy conversations, but as well, like, what's the underpinning stuff of this conversation? You know, what do we what do we really want to build? So it's, it's been really fun. It's been really fun. Are you okay? Yeah, exactly the same. And as you would know, Michelle, with NLP, you know, that communication is so important. So I, in the past have had stories where I am not a good communicator, however, Matilda, and my relationship is really bringing out how we can truly communicate and be vulnerable within that. And I think we should we are really great mirrors for each other. And you know, not that there's any been big dramas, but you know, if there's some a program, for example, that doesn't feel quite right, we sit with that. And we're like, okay, so what about, this is not quite working right now.
Michelle Johnson
In built business coaching, it's a great plan
Kate Ladner
each other constantly.
Michelle Johnson
I mean, it can be very lonely in business, especially when you're starting I know a lot. That's why a lot of people reach out for coaching. So it's great that you have each other to kind of bounce those ideas off in that you know, each other well enough to be able to support each other in whatever is your natural style is, which is awesome. Yeah, I love that. I think it's like, because we are at the point where it's that choice to wear together as well. And it's like, there's aspects like, oh, yeah, we could do that, you know, separately. However, we were choosing to go actually, we could do this more powerfully, and it would be more fun and, you know, and more enjoyable and all that kind of thing to do it together. Yeah, so it doesn't have the same resistance as like a high school group project where you get 40 people and you've got to try and work out how to make things work. Let's say that it just feels seamless.
Kate Ladner
And like we found that we can interchange quite easily between the masculine and the feminine as well. So Matildas quite, you know, strategies structure. Like I'm very action taking and I can sometimes sit in the feminine which is more flowy and and that sort of aspect. So when combined with the two and
And we can see that in each other and then we can step and swap. And sometimes I'm more action taking and sometimes Matilda's more flowy. And whereas I think sometimes singularly, as you were saying, you don't always have that balance.
So I find, especially if you can sort of
put into words, am I feeling in the more masculine at the moment? Or the more feminine? And then Okay, so if I'm too much of one, how can I step into that another? Hmm. So good to have that, as you said, like a mirror that someone else is noticing those things, because I keep I consider myself fairly self aware. But there's still times where I'll go be going through something for a period of time. And then I realize, oh, no, I've just been stuck in this place, because of the way that I'm thinking. And yeah, having someone else's observing you a bit more often and being a bit more involved in what you're doing. Definitely, you can have that external accountability, sort of on tap for your behavior, which is cool. Yeah, absolutely. Amazing. So I think lots of people operate kind of branding agencies in different ways. Can you tell us a little bit about what what is encapsulated in your branding agency? And what could people expect if they work with you?
Yeah, definitely. It's something that's always evolving. And that's why when we first started, we're okay. We're a branding agency. We do we do the colors, we do the branding kits, and we do the styling kids, and all the things and it's so interesting, as it evolved, you're like, wow, we are, we are so much more than a branding agency. How are we defining ourselves now. And so, as you have heard, now, our main focus is the visuals. So we've really realized that we're visual strategist. So we are quite good at recognizing
what works and what doesn't, within within someone's branding, and how to really get people to step into their highest version, visually, to maintain this really congruent and authentic online presence. Yeah, absolutely. It's like a really
different way of, you know, coming into branding and coming into business. So we definitely do not operate like the normal agency, like, which would be
whatever that is website,
logo thing. You know, we come in and do this for you, we kind of look cool, we can visually articulate all these different aspects that are happening. And then we can dive under that, you know, into the mindset aspect and go cool. Is this actually what you want to show? And if it's not, what is it actually that you want to show like, who is your real self, that you really, really want to show and that your audience is actually yearning to connect with.
Matilda Morgan
And net, and then we can work through that permission work through that, you know, building confidence through like, you know, for various ways, like whether it's, you know, NLP processes, or through that conversation or ever simply for like, passing on that knowledge that we have, like, yeah, these clothes, clothing is what's going to make you look amazing. This, these color palettes, you know, are going to be incredible for your brand, because they help create that emotional impact that you're looking for. You know, this is how you can pose in your photo. This is also how you can take your photo by yourself if you need to create that content. And this is the, you know, the strategy that you can use to outline that content. So it's like that underpinning between your that self, that brand and that connection aspect that
Kate Ladner
really differentiates us and how we work. So you can see how like, the branding agency doesn't really suit what we do is sort of like branding, coaches and mentors. And so the packages go between whether you want a styling and photoshoot and strategy session with us. That's one program, for example, or like more of a mentorship type of thing. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I had a photoshoot a few weeks ago. And I guess when I booked it, all I thought about was I need images for my site. But the person who took the photos was so great at like, asking me these questions about well, what, like, what are your brand colors? And what does that mean? What what words represent your brand and it actually became this whole branding exercise even though that wasn't sort of what I signed in my own head, that wasn't what I was signing up for. But it is so important to think about those things and do it intentionally. Because it is an investment and you want to get the payback out of it. And I think so many people get photos taken. And you just you get them back and then you're like now what do I do with this or or that doesn't fit with what I want to use it for or, you know, so actually going in with that plan upfront and
Matilda Morgan
strategy about how that fits in, I think is really helpful for people to get the most out of the experience. I love that I like that sounds like a really good photographer. Ah, yes, that's awesome. And, you know, you don't know what you don't know, like, and, you know, often, like people coming in, I just want the clothing or I just want the content, it's like, oh,
Kate Ladner
yeah, unless we unpack this other stuff. And, you know, create that clarity around, like, you know, what your intentions are for the photos, you know, what, who you actually want to express, then it's not going to be the results that you're looking for. And also, like, energetically, your audience won't be, won't have a clear idea either. So because what how you show up in a photoshoot, for example, it's literally what your audience sees. And that makes them then feel something which then you know, generates, whether they trust you or not, and builds that, you know, see, feel trust, and then ultimately, whether they decide to work with you work with you or not. So yeah, yeah, so yeah, photo shoots, like a future paces, they should be putting you and your audience into the future of, you know, what it was like to work with you and who you are becoming.
Matilda Morgan
So it's really, and that's, and that's one of the reasons why they are, and can be quite vulnerable for entrepreneurs of like, whatever, you know, whatever you've accomplished, we've worked with, like, seven figure entrepreneurs that still feel vulnerable, wearing certain clothes, or, you know, in a photoshoot because you are seeing the future of yourself, you're seeing your higher self. If it's done, right. Yeah, that's so interesting. I guess that's why you sort of feel that pressure to decide the big picture. Because you? Yeah, it's almost like committing to your goals and what you want the future to look like.
Michelle Johnson
It's not just a, you know, process of taking photos. So you'd have something to slap on social media. It's that whole package coming together, you know, your mindset aligning with what you're putting out there. And you you sort of believing in the future vision for yourself first, and then so it sort of comes across authentically. Yeah. 100%? Absolutely. Yeah. That's why we find to definitely have that Zoom call beforehand, just to to get your mind in the right place before the physicality of it.
Amazing. Could you give us a bit of an insight into a couple of tips that we can implement in our personal branding? Yeah, absolutely. Certainly, Michelle, get some advice during this.
Matilda Morgan
So we've got a few I'll take one. So one is, you know, really knowing your like your body shape, and the colors that are going to work on your body. And what that does is that means that you can get really clear on the clothing that you're wearing for your brand, whether you use archetypes or for your future self or whether it's just for yourself, and then what does it mean to like, as soon as you know what you can wear each day, it doesn't matter which aspect of your brand new journey upload with, it's like a casual, like at home version of your brand, whether it's like I am boss queen, like look at me go version of your brand, like the heels on, you're always going to be able to get content, because you're always in those colors, and you're always in stuff that's going to compliment you and help you feel good. And that goes for double doubles. Like every time you look at yourself in the mirror, are you going to be like Yeah, girl, you know.
And then
almost the other thing, the other thing was building that confidence of self as well. So you're constantly like refining and practicing becoming that person. So clothing and visuals that drops you in, right? It's you know, it allows you to consistently see yourself practicing that higher version of self. Yes, something really weird happened to me when I saw my photos, where I was like, it totally lifted my mindset because it was like, that wasn't quite how I saw myself yet. And then when I saw it in the photo, I was like, wow, I look so like sure of myself and professional and that it was like the sort of self fulfilling prophecy that then I felt like that. So yeah, 100% agree. Well, one thing I do get into a bit more like this later, but that just reminded me so I want to say it is sometimes if I'm like, really like wanting to write you know, I've got some content that I want to write or if I'm going through like a little bit of like, for the moment, what I'll actually do is bring up a photo of myself from a photo shoot and just put it in the corner of my computer screen. So I can just say it. So it's just like and I just look at I'm like, if I'm her and she's a boss, so therefore I'm a boss and then I can feel my mood elevating
Michelle Johnson
From that, sorry, yeah, I love
Kate Ladner
that so I can intentionally use my photos to get that feeling. Yeah, well, that brings in what I was about to say is also that conscious awareness around everything. So like, especially whilst making decisions. So if you are in that version of yourself, and then if you say, for example, you can get into a state of overwhelm, it's being conscious at every single moment. Okay, so what is my brain doing? If I'm in a state of overwhelm, that then means I must make a decision. Because to get over the state of overwhelm, as I know, some mums in business sometimes fine, some may not.
Is, is there's a lot of things to do on our to do list. So it's just that making one decision and being so aware of the emotion that it's feeling in the body at that time, because sometimes it can get trapped in the body. And if you start to get fat, or, you know, if your lower back starts to ache, and then it's like, okay, so what do I need to do bodily as well to get out of this state as well. So you're making a mind decision, and you're also moving the body to get rid of any trapped emotions in there as well.
And so and we also get to reframe our story too, right, like, so. We were at a speaking event on Saturday. And I used to have in the past a limiting belief that I wasn't good enough. And so as you know, with limiting beliefs, they create these environments to reaffirm that, that belief, and so it's in the past, now it's gone. However, I can notice like little niggling things at times, and I was in the bathroom. And I was before we were about to go on stage, and I touched my hand, like always my head good enough. And I'm like, Whoa, hello, belief. And it's like, these women in the room have already seen you as a powerful human. Why not? Why it's like for what purpose? Are you doubting yourself now? It's like, you already are good enough. You don't need to change your hair and do all these things. So I guess it's a having that awareness of, of old stories, and reframing that like completely choosing something different. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's a constant awareness of like, just being aware. It's like an eye even even as you're practicing becoming more aware of what's happening inside and in your mind. Like I actually, like when you start doing it, you'll notice that there's like, just those little parts of you that not jump in and go, you know, do that little voice of work. Is that good enough? Or like you haven't done it yet? Or, you know, you said you're going to do this today or something like that. You can actually tap into those and go, Oh, hi. Thought that believes that. That negative thought, how are you going today?
Matilda Morgan
Yeah, I'm good. Thanks. How are you going? Yeah, cool. Um, and then you can ask the questions like, your when? How long have you been there? You know, and they can just answer like, oh, actually, I've been here since I was. And whatever comes into your mind, this is an interesting exercise for anyone who hasn't done this before. Just trust whatever comes up, and let it go right? And just ask these questions in practice asking these questions. So sometimes I'll go through this process. If it's keeps on popping up we go. Cool. Where are you coming from? You didn't do that? Ah, thing coming from since you were 12. Oh, that's interesting. Cool. And so therefore, like, okay, cool. I must have needed you when I when, when I was 12. Awesome.
So thank you so much for for all your help. You've been really, really good at your job of popping back up and reminding me of that. And then I asked him the question again, I go, do you know how old I am now. And they go, they generally go.
Well, and you go, I'm actually 31 now. So things have changed. And thank you so much. For all your help, you've been really helpful. You're really, really good at what you do, because they are very good at what they do. And then you can go can I give you another job? Are you would you be happy with another job to do? And they go, because I don't want to like you're really good at working. I don't want to destroy you and all that kind of stuff. I want to keep you around because you're a good workout. I just want to reassign you, and I go Yeah, yeah. And you go every time and like start with whatever feels good for you. Like what has been feeling good for me recently. It's like, every time you notice a little thought like that come up. Can you just ring the bell? So I can become aware of it with more ease.
And like so every time a little thought like that comes up like I think they may they may go oh my god. Thank you. So
much for bringing that to my attention. And then we can work through it again. I love that. Yeah, it's real. And then so that means that you can become more aware more mindful of even more thoughts that come out, even when they're good thoughts even going Fuck yeah, I did a really good job today. I'm really proud of myself. Thanks for that. That's awesome. I did do a really good job today. Yeah.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah, more of those thoughts. Thank you.
Matilda Morgan
Yes. Thank you, Brian. Yeah.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah, that's an awesome exercise, I might scribble that one down to clients as well. It's so hard sometimes to build awareness. Like there's a few like different techniques you can use. But even being on this journey, there's still like the next level and the next level. And the next level where you still even when you're aware, there's still different ways to interrogate where things come from. And you might not need a deep hypnosis to analyze that. I love that you that example of just sort of asking the thought, Where are you coming from? And what are you here for kind of thing to just be able to send it on its way?
Matilda Morgan
Yeah, yeah. And giving yourself permission that sometimes you don't notice. Sometimes it might be a couple of days until you're noticing go. Awesome. Cool. I have no agenda still in the process of practicing this. And thank you for bringing it to my attention now. Yeah, have you had
Michelle Johnson
some moments during your journey so far in this business where you've noticed different mindset challenges coming up? And maybe you can share what you've done with that?
Kate Ladner
Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's me. I'll take that. Yeah. But I in the past have sometimes been stuck in a loop of, I don't know enough. Like, and I guess it's that imposter syndrome, right, like, and so it's, yeah, it's really coming back to? Well, you do have a lot of knowledge and insight. And for what purpose? Are you saying you don't know? It's like, okay, so it's a self sabotaging pattern. So once you acknowledge again, it's that acknowledgement, acknowledgement of like, this is what's happening, then you can choose differently, and then you can let it so and let it pan out that way.
Matilda Morgan
Yeah. I'm it's like, acknowledgment, or that learning, remembering to trust that you already know. And learning to trust body or learning to trust those little Inklings. And then when they do come up, acting on them, and honoring that, like, so that's what I've been really leaning into. Recently, I think we both have, and which is like, cool, that's just come up to contact that person or to have that conversation. Or to, you know, lie on the ground and just zone out. I'm going to now act on that, and honor that. And then that's going to make me feel good.
Kate Ladner
And that's that trust piece, right? It's listening to it's asking what what you need right now, in order to come into the nervous system and to get back on track. And then actually listening, listening to what comes up and then to build that trust, as Matilda said, is to act on that. And it's that process, it's you can't be you can't just say I trust myself, when you hadn't before. It's it's that process every day in listening and acting.
Matilda Morgan
Yeah. And how like, they can appear like even it's like, oh, you should do this. Or it's like, it could just be that those thoughts that come up, like, oh, you should do some content. Now. You should, you know, be wearing this or something like that. And you can like go, ah, that's an interesting thought to come up. Thank you for that. Cool, awesome. I do have time have created time. And now I get to create content now. Yeah. Oh, that's that I get to Yeah, yeah. And then you can act on it. And then so you created that slight reframe. And then you've also honored the action of doing that content. Because it's come up for a reason. So honor? Yeah, I
Michelle Johnson
think it's Tony Robbins, quote. He says don't shoot all over yourself.
Kate Ladner
Yeah. Oh, yes. I like that. Yeah.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah. I think that's something that comes up a lot for my clients as well as this feeling of, yeah, I should be doing my business this way. Or I should be being a mum this way. And sort of unpacking well, who says Where did that come from?
Kate Ladner
Totally. That's that societal view. Right. And, you know, with the internet and social media is there's a lot of people showing up in certain ways. And so you get so distrustful of what comes beautifully from your heart. And so, yeah, it's just again, it's that trust piece in tuning into what's right for you like we
Matilda Morgan
Get a lot with our clients as well as like, oh, I can't post that because I should be wearing this, or I need to have this over here or it should be set up in a perfect way. It's like, well, yeah, it doesn't need to be strategy around it, like strategy will take you further, however, like, why not unpack that and go, Well, how would you turn up in that? Like,
Michelle Johnson
what's really like, how can you? And then how can you start doing that so that you can even get to the point where you get the momentum to really bring in the strategy? Yeah, that's what I love about coaching is that just a couple of key questions can totally change somebody's direction, like, they can be very set in a certain way of thinking. And then just one question about, well, who says that you should do it that way? Or, like, why are you waiting for that? Or whatever it is, and then someone who's totally stuck and can't get into action or move the dial in their business? You just unlock something for them so powerful.
Matilda Morgan
Totally, totally.
Kate Ladner
Yeah.
Matilda Morgan
Yeah. Well, I went shopping with one of our clients last week, and was talking about like, she's got her own own business, own practice own office, and we're looking at shoes, and she's like, Oh, can I wear the shoes? I'm like, yes, it's your office. Yeah. It's like, she's, I guess, yeah, I can wear those shoes. Tell ya because of the style. Wasn't
she like, well, I can't wear these because yeah, office,
I wear these because it's an office, it doesn't look professional, you know, all these old stories. And like, it's your office, your office, if you if you adjust and like, yeah, sure, there's ways we can you want to look neat and professional. But however, what is professional? What is professional? You know, it's not? I mean, I don't turn up in a frickin suit every day for work. Yeah. Yeah, I
Michelle Johnson
guess if you're waiting for permission, that's a little signal to you that you might need to work on your confidence. But, you know, if you, if you can't answer that question on your own about which shoes to wear, you might need someone to help in the bigger picture, not about the shoes, but to help you be able to make those decisions in the future. Like, I really, I like to help my clients and then like, send them off into the world. But my lifelong program, it's like, Here are the tools. Yeah, go. That's what I love about NLP. Once you've got those techniques and tools under your belt, so to speak, you can continue to implement them again. And again, without necessarily having heaps of knowledge about it.
Kate Ladner
I love that it's a lifelong program. Because it is right. Like whenever hold, like there's always something some other thing in life and and it's the the way you meet it.
Michelle Johnson
Yeah. It's kind of like I think of it a bit like, like a video game. It's like you unlock the next level. And then now there are all these new challenges, and then you unlock that level. And then there are more challenges.
Kate Ladner
I love the visual of that. That's so great.
Michelle Johnson
Just, like recognize my name in the bottom when you share that? Yeah. Oh, thank you so much for sharing all about it as predicted. I did really love nerding out about NLP with you. Is there anything else that you would really like to share with the listeners today?
Kate Ladner
I think I think one tip I will leave your listeners on is find a way to see your highest self, whether it was what Matilda had said with put it up in the corner of your screen or create a vision board and actively choose to be that person in whatever it takes every day. So whether it's putting on that pair of heels, it doesn't need to be the whole thing. But it's like, okay, this is who I aspire to be. And this is the type of person who I am internally and externally, if that's the thing, and you know, whatever your value system is just one little thing that you can do visually to see yourself in that aspect every day.
Michelle Johnson
Awesome. And how can we get in touch with you if we'd like to follow along with what you're doing and learn more about your agency?
Matilda Morgan
Yeah, absolutely. So the best way to follow us is on Instagram at expensive dot branding agency, or you can follow us on Facebook as well. On LinkedIn and then you can also follow us on our personals as well. I'm at Matilda Morgan official and then your Kate Lardner dot car. Yep. And that will lead you through to what we do as well. And yeah, so that's probably the easiest way and you're welcome to email us as well. Expensive branding [email protected]
Michelle Johnson
Amazing. I'll pop those in the show. Your notes as well. So if you're driving walking at the gym and you weren't able to write those down, I'll put them in the show notes for you. But thank you so much Kate and Matilda. It's been awesome. I really appreciate all of your nuggets that we can use in our own lives to improve our mindset. Thank you.
Kate Ladner
You're so welcome. Thank you.
Michelle Johnson
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